Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

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Make hard rim hits trigger Rimshot

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Have you ever wanted light hits on the rim trigger sidestick, but have hard hits trigger the Rimshot. While not entirely obvious, this functionality is built into the Rimshot Range Control. Simply dragging the right side of the rimshot range all the way to the far right, and then adjust the bottom part of the rimshot range to set the velocity cutoff between the sidestick and the rimshot. Here's pic of the rimshot range settings that work well for my PD-125.
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Do you have a playing example of this? Seems very cool.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Basically, if you play the rim soft, you'll get sidestick, and if you play it hard, your will get the rimshot. In version 1.4, the velocity of the rimshot is not going to scale as nicely as it should if you are *only* hitting the rim, but in version 1.5 it'll scale a lot better.
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Sorry my question was confusing. Is it an actual “soft” rimshot hit (ie rim and head at same time just soft), or is this just hitting the rim by itself?
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Just the rim by itself. But as I said, it'll work much better in version 1.5. with version 1.4 it works well with my PD-125, but not so well with my DDT.
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Rob wrote:Just the rim by itself. But as I said, it'll work much better in version 1.5. with version 1.4 it works well with my PD-125, but not so well with my DDT.
Oh okay. Sorry for another question. Does a regular rimshot (head and rim together) still work the same? Is using this technique is a rimshot just a really hard rim only hit.
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Rob wrote:But as I said, it'll work much better in version 1.5.
Hmm. Version 1.5 you say? When might we expect to see that?
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If I scale back some of my plans, I could have a beta version ready in about two weeks.
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Rob wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:00 pm
Have you ever wanted light hits on the rim trigger sidestick, but have hard hits trigger the Rimshot. While not entirely obvious, this functionality is built into the Rimshot Range Control. Simply dragging the right side of the rimshot range all the way to the far right, and then adjust the bottom part of the rimshot range to set the velocity cutoff between the sidestick and the rimshot. Here's pic of the rimshot range settings that work well for my PD-125.

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Are you saying that if i hace 2 zone snare i can assign to the rim 2 sounds, if i hit soft i have a sidestick and if i hit the rim hard, i get a rimshot, i need this!!!! i will test this afternoon
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nachocascardo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:36 pm
Rob wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:00 pm
Have you ever wanted light hits on the rim trigger sidestick, but have hard hits trigger the Rimshot. While not entirely obvious, this functionality is built into the Rimshot Range Control. Simply dragging the right side of the rimshot range all the way to the far right, and then adjust the bottom part of the rimshot range to set the velocity cutoff between the sidestick and the rimshot. Here's pic of the rimshot range settings that work well for my PD-125.

alwaysRSonHarHit.png
Are you saying that if i hace 2 zone snare i can assign to the rim 2 sounds, if i hit soft i have a sidestick and if i hit the rim hard, i get a rimshot, i need this!!!! i will test this afternoon
Yes, that’s what this means. In this manner you can avoid hits intended to be rim shots from triggering a side stick as long as you hit it with sufficient strength.
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